14
Aug
11

Adventures in groupthink, blame-spreading double-standards edition

Things I’ve heard rather too often:

  1. Islam is the problem.  If it’s true that Islam can be a religion of peace, it’s up to the moderate Muslims to put up or shut up: overwhelmingly denounce Islamic radicalism, terrorism, culturally-institutionalized anti-Semitism and sexism; and show that they can support democratic and market-friendly norms.  Until then, we’re perfectly justified in treating anyone with a Koran in his carry-on as a terrorist.”
  2. Black people are the problem.  If it’s true that north American black culture can be a vibrant expression of community rather than an urban plague, it’s up to moderate black people to put up or shut up: overwhelmingly denounce thug culture, gang violence, welfare parisitism, and serial child abandonment; and show that blacks can be honest, productive, and upstanding members of the community.  Until then, we’re perfectly justified in treating anyone with sagging trousers and too much melanin as a terrorist.”

Things I haven’t heard much at all:

  1. “Christianity is the problem.  If it’s true that Christianity can be a religion of love, it’s up to the moderate Christians to put up or shut up: overwhelmingly denounce calls for the mass murder of atheists, the pathologization of homosexuality, and the slaughter of children in Norway; and show that Christians can be tolerant, accepting, and supportive members of society.  Until then, we’re perfectly justified in treating anyone who wears a crucifix as a terrorist.”
  2. “Statism is the problem.  If it’s true that a powerful government can be the core of a healthy society, it’s up to the moderate statists to put up or shut up: overwhelmingly denounce the routine use of excessive force against private citizens, the corruption of regulatory agencies for the benefit of well-connected megacorporations, and institutionalized torture; and show that its institutions serve the people rather than the other way around.  Until then, we’re perfectly justified in treating anyone who runs for public office or applies for a public-sector job as a terrorist.”

It’s instructive, in each case, upon whom the burden of proof lies is placed.

Advertisements

3 Responses to “Adventures in groupthink, blame-spreading double-standards edition”


  1. 1 perlhaqr
    August 15, 2011 at 06:45

    Oooh! Oooh! I’ve said the second one of your second group of examples.

    And it’s sort of true. Being Muslim or Christian or Black isn’t something that requires something of anyone else. Being a Statist imposes a burden on all the non-statists around. I want to be left alone. They don’t want to leave me alone. I think the burden of proof really is on them to demonstrate that their way is better if they want to force me to participate.

    • August 15, 2011 at 08:40

      I basically agree, with a few caveats:

      – I was more interested in the “majority opinion” vs “minority opinion” side of the argument, and have edited the post to be more clear.

      – The “Christian extremists” in that first link sure look like they’re requiring something (not being an atheist) of me. They could probably find common cause in that with “Muslim extremists”.

      – Up to a certain point, which we’ve passed long ago on this continent, I think the negative effects of “moderate” statism are small enough to be dominated by cultural factors. I’d cite Liechtenstein as a “nice” example and Somalia as a “not-nice” example of state effects getting lost in the cultural noise.

      • 3 perlhaqr
        August 16, 2011 at 17:56

        Hrm. I guess I was jumping straight to ignoring the extremists. One does not need to be an “extremist statist” to have an impact on the daily life of the anarchocapitalist.


Leave a reply; use raw HTML for markup. Please blockquote quotations from the post or other comments.

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s


anarchocapitalist agitprop

Be advised

I say fuck a lot

Categories

Archives

Statistics FTW


%d bloggers like this: